My experience in Updating to Thunderbird 78

As the support requests had started appearing for the update to 78 I though I would update. Now I was a lo

Downloaded EXE at 12.49pm

Then memory usage shot up,  disk IO went up and the clicking of continue of scripts started.

is what I saw in the task manager,  I clicked continue 5 times and eventually a new Thunderbird window appeared at 1:00pm.

However still the application is busy.

Memory usage is up and disk IO is also maxing out.

1:02 I have apparently got Thunderbird.  But there is nothing useful to show

Memory usage is still up,  but disk IO is down.

Nothing actually works. The top menu is simply non functional.

No I made a mistake,  it is displaying tiny tiny boxes

There is one under the help help in the image above.  I think it might be a tooltip

1:08 Thunderbird is still doing something,  as the CPU usage changes in task manager,  but I have no idea what.

Resource monitor appears to think Thunderbird is waiting on Network IO,  but it is not using the network.

Well this has been truly exciting.  1:13 and still nothing,  but the windows controls for minimize and close don't work either.  Just a wonderful upgrade so far.  And that was after using the Beta on another profile.

1:15 I have better things to do I will have lunch and see if it comes to life while I do that.  At least the script error have stopped.

1:16 disk IO has stopped

Memory use is not changing,  the UI is useless. So I suppose it is time to End the task from task manager. 1:20  ended task,  the speed at which it disappeared certainly suggested it was doing nothing.

1:21 clicked to start Thunderbird again,  just in case the last debacle was an accident.

1:22 script unresponsive

It was 1:23 before I clicked continue,  and I am still hungry.

1:25 a UI appeared.  Status bar says null again like last time.

1:27.

UI elements get focus when you mouse over,  but fail to respond.

1:32 Time to kill it again I think.  Perhaps not the Status bar has changed from Nul to No messages to download.  That would indicate the profile is sort of working.

1:44  everything is quiet

Except I still have no user interface that works.

The user profile has lots of updated files.  God help us with the load of SQLite files I am seeing.

But still I need to end task and even the big red X does not work.

Well I figure I need a backup before this gets any worse.  Not sure how long windows will; take to backup 257,000 items,  but I am guessing a long while.  Yay   it says more than 3 hours.  Not for me.

So I tried deleting the global DB,  pig that it is.  Nothing useful from that but another 10m minutes watching the task manager.

Tried safe mode,  put up a dialog about being in safe mode and a number of script time-out errors. Now it is at 2654.  but it looks like this might not load it at all.

Nope rebooted the whole computer.  Perhaps that will help.

3:16 Tried launching Thunderbird again.

After removing panacea.dat,  globalmessagesdb and foldertree.dat one at a time and waiting out  the extensive startup process I made no progress.  Safe mode does not start functionally

Gave up about 5pm and renamed all the mab.bak files to mab and reverted to Thunderbird 68 using the allow-downgrade .  Basically I might try again in a week or so what I have half a day to mess about again.  Program loads and functions mostly correctly.  No calendar,  but I think I like it that way.

A belated note: TLS 1.0 and 1.1 support ended with Thunderbird 68.4

Once upon a time, we did not have to worry about connection encryption.  everyone connected in plain text and often did not even need a password.  How time have changed, over the last 20 years, connection encryption has become a defacto standard. So now there is not only the End of Life dates for Operating systems (windows 7 14 January 2020)  but these encryption protocols come out with new versions and older versions are cryptographically broken and have to be removed from active use.

The time has come in Thunderbird for the end of life of TLS version 1.0 and 1.1.  TLS 1.0 was technically "end of life" 30 June 2018 but for reasons, I do not grasp the agreement between Apple, Google, Microsoft, and Mozilla to retire support for these aging cryptographic protocols is for version 1.0 and 1.1 together. Firefox has now retired them in Version 74, and as Thunderbird is built on the Mozilla platform it is also retiring them at the same time as Firefox ESR removes it in Version 68.5.

So what does this mean to Thunderbird mail users?  For most people it means nothing.  Your mail provider will have been proactive in retiring old protocols and maintaining their PCI DSS compliance so the change will have no impact at all.

For those who use mail servers that do not have proactive administrators, you will not be able to connect to the mail server to get your mail.  If you suspect this might be the case, open the error console (Alt+Shift+J) and clear it (trash bin icon) then attempt to get your mail.

You will see errors about incompatible connection or security issues. I do not have access to a noncompliant email server to offer examples.  But as an alternative, you can go to the ssl-tools web site and put in the part of your email address after the @ and check in the report that your mail server supports TLS versions greater than 1.1

Changing text color and the special issue this represents for Mac users.

Thunderbird 68 removes the limit on the number of colours available and now offers whatever the operating system of the device offers.  This is usually more than 60 million.


You are using Apple,  the complex things you see are part of your apple operating system.  Windows users see a colour picker that they pick a colour from because that is the tool windows offers up when asked.

Both operating systems should put up an equivalent to this

The windows dialog you see when you click the colour bar to set another colour looks like this

Apple has something that looks like this as their operating system colour picker

They offer instructions here on using this part of their operating system.

The special problem MAC users appear to have is they do not close the colour picker dialog and then complain that the colours in Thunderbird do not update. So, close the dialog.  That is all you have to do to make it work.

I lost my Profile/Mail on update of Thunderbird

 

If this is you,  then you are not alone.  Thunderbird 68 comes with this fancy new profile per install thing that the Firefox folk invented with Firefox 67.  It serves a purpose,  but for the vast majority of users it is nothing but a nuisance that offers yet another reason for things to go wrong.  But it can be beaten and once set should remain the same basically forever.  The current issues are mostly about changing from 32 to 64 bit builds and once that is done should not have to be repeated.

In my instruction I assume that the profile is located in the default location.  if you changed this default to some other drive for space reasons for example,  you will need to correct my instructions so your looking in the right place for your old profile.

First navigate to the Troubleshooting information on the help menu. Scroll to the bottom of the "Application Basics" information and select the last entry.  About:profiles.

 This will open a new tab showing the about profiles information.

This heading is followed by all the registered profiles Thunderbird currently has registered. 

If you have more than the current default profile listed,  it is worth noting the name of the current default and clicking the "Launch profile in a new browser" button for other profiles shown.  The label is incorrect and awaits correction.  But clicking the button will launch Thunderbird in a new window with the selected profile loaded.  If it happens to be what you are looking for.  Click the Set as default button and you good to restart.

If none of the profiles listed here are your missing one,   you will need to move on to creating a new profile that is in the same location as the old profile.  Use the "Create a new profile" button at the top of the about:profiles page to start Thunderbirds Create profile wizard.

The action here is to use the Create profile button. This will open a Create profile Wizard dialog.

Lots of information here, but just click Next.

 This dialog is upset because the name already exists,  as does the location,  so change the name.  To anything.  Something like OldProfile or MyProfile might be a good easy name to remember if you ever have issues in the future.

Now click the choose folder button.  This will open a standard open dialog in the default location of the profiles.  What I see looks like this

This list of files with their random characters and "profile names" on the end is the same list as shown in the about:profiles page.  But there should be one more profile listed here than is shown in the about:profiles page.  Select it as the location for your new profile and click ok.  Then in the profile wizard click finish.

You will be returned to the about profiles page and the list will be refreshed with your new profile name which will show as default. A restart of Thunderbird should see the correct profile launched.

Profile per install and downgrade protection

Thunderbird 68 also introduced a Mozilla feature,  profile per install and picked up the downgrade protection along with it.  This actively prevents downgrading from one version to another.  Mozilla also introduced a new command line option to override the downgrade protection.

For those using Thunderbird this command line also works.  So I suppose I need to offer instructions for that.

For Windows users,

using the run command (Windows key+R) 

Entering the following command line for 32 bit Thunderbird 

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Mozilla Thunderbird\Thunderbird" -allow-downgrade 

or the following command line for 64 bit Thunderbird

"C:\Program Files\Mozilla Thunderbird\Thunderbird" -allow-downgraded 

These example assume default installs and you might just have been switched from 32 to a 64 bit build on update.  So you might have to try both. 

For MacOS

cd /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS
./firefox -allow-downgrade

For Linux

cd Thunderbird installation directory
./thunderbird -allow-downgrade

Yahoo problems

The following two options should workaround the bug in the Yahoo mail system that affect many more than just those with @Yahoo mail addresses.  There is also a Thunderbird bug that has been raised to investigate this issue here that provides more detailed information should you be interested. 

Select options from the three bar menu.
Select the Display | Formatting tab | Advanced button
Set outgoing mail text encoding to Unicode Select the "When possible, use the default text encoding in replies" Click on Ok.

If that does not do it for you you will need to use the config editor to modify the setting mail.strictly_mime to true to force Thunderbird to use 7bit encoding in email.  This is not an optimal setting but is sometimes needed to workaround the various Yahoo issues.